tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5839508507864602815.post3987490805204302416..comments2024-03-20T22:43:17.866-05:00Comments on Chair Notes: Hide Glue 1-2-3Peter Galberthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02206420121702258974noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5839508507864602815.post-57350223082447080922007-02-28T23:18:00.000-05:002007-02-28T23:18:00.000-05:00Kris,Hide glue is not appropriate for cutting boar...Kris,<BR/>Hide glue is not appropriate for cutting boards because it is most certainly affected by moisture. As far as sanitary reasons, hide glue is actually harmless to consume but repeated wettings may cause some sort of mold to form. I would contact glue manufacturers to ask whether they consider their glue waterproof and foodsafe. Some glues, toxic while in the bottle, become inert in their dried form.<BR/>PetePeter Galberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02206420121702258974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5839508507864602815.post-21470714479071125182007-02-28T21:40:00.000-05:002007-02-28T21:40:00.000-05:00As an antique restorer, I have long loved rabbit s...As an antique restorer, I have long loved rabbit skin glue but recently have been tasked with a job in making cutting boards. I worry about the cleaning of the boards, glue getting soft and board coming apart not to mention the how sanitary it would be. Any advice?<BR/><BR/>KrisKrijogahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10301223972134651026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5839508507864602815.post-58201277975230157022007-02-28T00:44:00.000-05:002007-02-28T00:44:00.000-05:00HAHA!!!YOU SUCKAS!!!YOU POOR SAPS HAVE TO USE GLUE...HAHA!!!<BR/>YOU SUCKAS!!!<BR/>YOU POOR SAPS HAVE TO USE GLUE!!!<BR/>HAHA!!!<BR/>YOU SUCKAS!!!<BR/>Ah, the wonders of knowledge beyond the common SUCKAS!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5839508507864602815.post-31094001488322398632007-02-27T08:22:00.000-05:002007-02-27T08:22:00.000-05:00Herman,My mistake, the pot I use is the Rival mode...Herman,<BR/>My mistake, the pot I use is the Rival model 471. When set on the lowest setting, it keeps the glue just below 140 degrees. As you can see in the photo, I cut a couple of notches in the side for a rubberband which holds a plasic cup (for the glue) in the water, no tipping over! Later, when the glue is almost gone and I'm through with it, I let it harden and pull it out of the cup in one piece! Easy clean up.Peter Galberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02206420121702258974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5839508507864602815.post-84464105325453905002007-02-26T23:13:00.000-05:002007-02-26T23:13:00.000-05:00What is the 'Sunshine water pot ' to which you ref...What is the 'Sunshine water pot ' to which you refer? I've never heard of it. Is that a brand name, or is it some sort of electric kettle?<BR/><BR/>Thanks,<BR/><BR/>HermanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5839508507864602815.post-64245519928408336222007-02-25T10:37:00.000-05:002007-02-25T10:37:00.000-05:00Greg,I drill all of my holes at once and then glue...Greg,<BR/>I drill all of my holes at once and then glue and assemble them one at a time. My joints are what I call hammer tight. I size them to be within 1/1000th or so of an inch. Once the joint is driven home with a hammer and glue, there is no play at all, I can make no further adjustments. I will be going into more about assembly on the blog soon. During the gluing of the stretchers and stretcher to leg joints, I can do one at a time and the 2 minute open time I get with the 251 hide glue with 20% urea works great. For longer open times use the 192 gram strength and make sure the air temperature is above 70 degrees and preheat the tenons with a heat gun. Above 70 degrees, the 192 mix should act like a liquid hide glue and stay open longer.Peter Galberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02206420121702258974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5839508507864602815.post-53561222583560717972007-02-25T07:42:00.000-05:002007-02-25T07:42:00.000-05:00Jean-Francois,Mixed hide glue will keep for a mont...Jean-Francois,<BR/>Mixed hide glue will keep for a month or more in the fridge, but I like to mix it fresh for each chair. It only takes a minute and then I know that the glue is at its best.Peter Galberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02206420121702258974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5839508507864602815.post-2981191043173061312007-02-24T21:34:00.000-05:002007-02-24T21:34:00.000-05:00I have used hide glue on my chairs for the past ye...I have used hide glue on my chairs for the past year or so. Up until then I used Elmer's white glue because the Windsor Institute recommended it for it's long open time. A long open time is essential for me, because the way I was taught to assemble a chair. I don't dry fit the undercarriage, for example. I drill a joint, glue it, and move on to the next. The advantage to this is that when you assemble the legs into the seat (assuming the glue is still open in the first joints you made) the joints can all give a little so that the glue will set with the parts in their optimal final positions relative to each other. Obviously 5 - 10 minutes is not enough open time for this.<BR/><BR/>With Old Brown Glue from Patrick Edwards (toolsforworkingwood.com also sells it) you get the best of both worlds- all of hide glue's advantages, plus a long open time. The down side is that it's relatively expensive and as you say, has only about a year shelf life.<BR/><BR/>I know it might be too ambitious to try to do in a blog entry, but it would be wonderful to have you explain how you assemble your chairs to accomodate the relatively short open time of hide glue. I may just have to schedule taking a class with you to find out!greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05696875704714328112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5839508507864602815.post-15610175241301081642007-02-24T19:00:00.000-05:002007-02-24T19:00:00.000-05:00Finally! "Hide glues for dummies". Thank you very...Finally! <EM>"Hide glues for dummies"</EM>. Thank you very much! I've read on the subject but have not found a lot of information on gram strength.<BR/> How long can you keep your prepared hide glue?Jean-Francois Theorethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01400885788310155366noreply@blogger.com